1 Killed, 4 Wounded In School Shooting At Chardon High School

Updated: Feb 27 at 4:27 p.m.

CHARDON, Ohio (CBS Cleveland/AP) — A teenager described as an outcast at a suburban Cleveland high school opened fire in the cafeteria Monday, killing one student and wounding four others before being caught a short distance away, authorities said.

A student who saw the attack close-up said it appeared that the gunman targeted a group of students sitting at a cafeteria table and that the one who was killed was trying to duck under the table.

Steven, a student at Chardon High School, witnessed the shooting called 92.3 The Fan’s Baskin & Phelps to give his perspective.

“I saw the kid shoot the gun in the cafeteria. I was maybe 200 feet away, it was pretty scary.” said Steven

He went on to describe the situation. “We all got under the tables, which is what your supposed to do and then we all just, people were screaming, getting into the nearest room, there was a teachers lounge, there was the kitchen, so everyone was just running as fast as they could into those rooms.”

Steven described his feelings on what he should do in that situation saying “I was actually the last one into the teachers lounge because I was under the table I was just panicking, my legs couldn’t move I was like wait what do I do? So I just ran as fast as I could into the teachers lounge.”

Since there was no lock, the people in the teachers lounge moved a piano in front of the door do try and keep the shooter out. “It was pretty scary. I’m still a little shaken up.”

According to Steven, the gunman, who is a student whom he went to elementary school with in 4th and 5th grade, left the cafeteria after firing 4 or 5 times.

AUDIO: Steven from Chardon

Panicked students screamed and ran through the halls after gunfire broke out at the start of the school day at 1,100-student Chardon High, about 30 miles from Cleveland. Teachers locked down their classrooms as they had been trained to do during drills, and students took cover as they waited for the all-clear.

One teacher was said to have dragged a wounded student into his classroom for protection. And distressed parents thronged the streets around the school as they heard from students via text message and cellphone long before official word came of the attack.

Two of the wounded were listed in critical condition, and another was in serious condition.

The suspect, whose name was not released because he is a juvenile, was arrested near his car a half-mile away, the FBI said. He was not immediately charged.

FBI officials would not comment on a motive. And Police Chief Tim McKenna said authorities “have a lot of homework to do yet” in their investigation. But 15-year-old Danny Komertz, who witnessed the shooting, said the gunman was known as an outcast who had apparently been bullied.

“I looked up and this kid was pointing a gun about 10 feet away from me to a group of four kids sitting at a table,” Komertz said. He said the gunman fired two shots quickly, and students scrambled for safety. One of them was “trying to get underneath the table, trying to hide, protecting his face.”

The slain student, Daniel Parmertor, was an aspiring computer repairman who was shot while waiting for the bus for his daily 15-minute ride to a vocational center. His teacher at the Auburn Career School had no idea why Parmertor, “a very good young man, very quiet,” had been targeted, said Auburn superintendent Maggie Lynch.

“We are shocked by this senseless tragedy,” his family said in a statement. “Danny was a bright young boy who had a bright future ahead of him.”

Officers investigating the shooting blocked off a road in a heavily wooded area several miles from the school. Federal agents patrolled the muddy driveway leading to several spacious homes and ponds, while other officers walked a snowy hillside. A police dog was brought in. It wasn’t clear what they were looking for.

Teacher Joe Ricci had just begun class when he heard shots and slammed the door to his classroom, yelling, “Lock down!” to students, according to Karli Sensibello, a student whose sister was in Ricci’s classroom.

A few minutes later, Ricci heard a student moaning outside, opened the door and pulled in student Nick Walczak who had been shot several times, Sensibello said in an email. Ricci comforted Walczak and let him use his cellphone to call his girlfriend and parents, Sensibello said. She said her sister was too upset to talk.

Heather Ziska, 17, said she was in the cafeteria when she saw a boy she recognized as a fellow student come into the cafeteria and start shooting. She said she and several others immediately ran outside, while other friends ran into a middle school and others locked themselves in a teachers’ lounge.

“Everybody just started running,” said 17-year-old Megan Hennessy, who was in class when she heard loud noises. “Everyone was running and screaming down the hallway.”

Rebecca Moser, 17, had just settled into her chemistry class when the school went into lockdown. The class of about 25 students ducked behind the lab tables at the back of the classroom, uncertain whether it was a drill.

Text messages started flying inside and outside the school, spreading information about what was happening and what friends and family were hearing outside the building.

“We all have cellphones, so people were constantly giving people updates — about what was going on, who the victims were, how they were doing,” Moser said.

The school had no metal detectors, but current and past students said it had frequent security drills in case of a shooting.

Anxious parents of high school students were told to go to an elementary school to pick up their children.

Joe Bergant, superintendent of schools in Chardon, a town of about 5,100 people, said school was canceled Tuesday and grief counselors would be available to students and families.

“If you haven’t hugged or kissed your kid in the last couple of days, take that time,” he said.

Gov. John Kasich has issued this statement:
“Please join me in praying for the students who’ve been injured in this horrible crime. Praise goes to the Chardon Police and Geauga County Sheriff’s office for quickly getting this situation under control. I’ve pledged Ohio’s full support to them, the school and the local community in this difficult time.”

Chardon is a city of about 5,100 residents.

AP writers Dan Sewell in Cincinnati and Julie Carr Smyth and Andrew Welsh-Huggins in Columbus contributed to this report.

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  • Joshy

    Dont blame the guns you crazy protectionist thug people. This may have even been some kind of false flag. The ATF supplied the guns, the teachers made sure the kid never got attention for his problems, and my guess is that the doctors had him on some kooky medication. This is the fault of the parents, teachers, and gov.

    • realistic

      Are you a teacher? What entitlement do you have to blame the teachers? You are making a lot of assumptions based on nothing but conjecture, and you are presenting yourself in a negative light. I’m not saying teachers did all they could, because I WAS NOT THERE.

      –a teacher

      • Jake

        Not entitlement, right.

        Do your @#$#@$# jobs and stop kids from being bullied. Too often teachers know when bullying is going on and do diddly squat, leaving the poor victim to endure horrific torture and abuse.

      • Lu Kang-sung

        Dear ” a teacher”

        Have you been bullied? What entitlement do you have to blame the bullied? You are making a lot of assumptions based on nothing but conjecture, and you are presenting yourself in a negative light.

        I was bullied. I am missing some body parts because of bullying. I am a teacher! I will blame teachers! I will blame parents!

        You questioned Joshy not for the accuracy of the information.

        A liberal will try to attack a person’s right to speak-up when his speech disagrees with that liberal’s mindset.
        Lu Kang-sung

        –a teacher

      • Jake

        Really? I think that is much more true of a Conservative. And Conservatives are much more likely to bully others.

    • JumJum

      You, sir, are totally paranoid. Whatever happened to people taking personal responsibility for themselves. Other yeah, the Illuminati controls everything, people can’t be blamed for crazy behavior anymore.

    • Kaitara

      Actually, I blame the school more. You can’t tell me that this kid was not known around school for being bullied, and made fun of. This was common knowledge. You can go to any school, talk to the kids, and within minutes know who the bullies are and who is being bullied. What does the school do? 99% of the time the take the person being bullied and give him/her counseling. They do nothing to stop the bullies. When their is intervention against the bullies, the bullies parents speak up and want to sue the school, and the school cowers. The schools keep saying they have this zero tolerance, yet it continues, how is that possible? When you take the people who are the bullies, and permanently ban them from schools, that will send a message to the rest of them and the PARENTS. Make a shadow program, some schools have this. If a kid gets in trouble like this, one or the other parent must come to school, every day for how ever many days is specified, and follow their child to every class including lunch. Maybe when the parents get tired of shadowing their child at school, they will make them behave!

      • Totally Confused

        What? Shadow Programs…you are another Lib….give me a break, I never had shadow programs, yet I do well. You are asking for the schools to step in first to help you raise a child…look at your last line.

        YOU are the problem….ty for writing.

      • Barbara

        Oh for goodness sake, if every kid who claimed he/she was bullied at school actually told the truth, it would cut the number in half! And if every kid who ever really was bullied went on to kill and maim, we would be in a lot worse shape than we are already. We don’t yet know the full story and blaming the kids who got shot is just not rational!

      • robynn

        you are absolutely right on…..the school and community have the right to morn the students involved, and healing will take a long time. Yes all of that is important. BUT what about the boy who had to go to the extreme to get his point across that being bullied is hurtful and abusive. What is the school and officials in charge of our children going to do to prevent this from happening in the future…..that part of this tragity is going to be brushed under the rug unless some parents at that school stand up for those being hurt By bullying. Where I live their is a no tolorence to bullying in our school district, doesn’t matter if your the bully or a follower or watching on the sidelines…….you
        get punished. we cant keep letting these things happen where our children are supposed to feel safe while learning. How many times did that child go to someone in his school and let them know he was being bullied? How many times did it get handled with punishment sever enough for it to stop? How
        many times ere the parents involved on either side to put an end to this nonsense? How many more times does this have to happen before the school officials and parents are on the same page?

      • marty

        Kaitara: You are the problem! You are a Democrat! You are a leftist! This is a problem that you and your people created. Now live with it!

    • BarrySotero

      This is obviously a false flag operation by the anti gun Obama White House. Too bad for this drugged out Manchurian candidate shooter. The regime will stop at nothing to further their totalitarian agenda.

      • Brad Brad Brad

        There’s not enough tin-foil in the world to help you.

    • Smedley

      Although much of what you say probably factors in, the bulk of responsibility for this type of event probably relates to the failure of the public school system. The regimented, collectivist style of learning is ill-suited to independent-minded individuals of varying interest and temperament. Under a voucher system, school shootings would probably never happen. Under a free-market system the boy who committed this crime would have been able to find a school better suited to his interests and social preference

      • Pk

        It seems to me the bulk of the responsibility rests with the kid that did the shooting. No matter what may have happened to him he still had the agency to make a choice and he chose poorly.

      • cleanfun


      • Ishmot2

        In the good old days; when we were not a nation of cowards this kid would have been taken out before any shoots were fired, I hope my kids will understand that you need to take notice of what is around you, and it’s better to fight back then cower to the floor.

    • chuck

      It is not the guns. It is parent and adults not teaching kids that bullying is not part of growning up, but instead is part of getting killed. No one knows what go on in another persons mind. And everyone know just how cruel and mean young adutls can b e. Until we have a different mindset and change people atitude to bullying thiese things will continue to happend. I know many years ago, I was picked on thought out my school years. And it was only byt grace of god and a very strong parent that I didi not do somethig like this.

      • NavyBuckeye


        I agree 100%. I was bullied and so is pretty much every single kid in school to some degree. Instead of crying about it and saying it is mean, teach kids that it will happen and to buck up and deal with it. It works wonders when you teach your kid that if a person is making fun of you (especially at the high school and middle school age) that person has those insecurities and just projects them onto others to feel better.

        But instead we feminize and use “Bullying” as an excuse to parse blame. The only person at fault is the shooter and he should be dealt with accordingly.

      • marty

        I knew this was coming. An article mentions bullying(the lefts new political correctness craze) and leftists immediately want to blame someone else. Well tell that to the dead kids parents. Buyllying has been around for thousands of years, but today’s feminized boys cannott handle the difficulties of life. This is a leftist problem created by a “new” politically correct education system. Most boys will not succeed in a completely feminized school system.

    • Larry Pierson

      Almost – it’s the fault of allowing the humanist/atheist mindset taking over our public education system. Insofar as the shooter is concerned this world is all there is to existence. If he can’t enjoy it he is going to be determined to ensure the bullies who make his life a living hell won’t either.

    • T. Paine

      Yeah, I can believe that. After Operation Fast and Furious, with regard to guns, I no longer believe a word the government says.

      • RobinNJ

        as someone who suffered severely under bullies in Rahway, NJ, I know full well how helpless you can be, and how that rage builds up and you wish you could do something. I always said, I was the first Columbine that never happened. I had those thoughts many times. They were so cruel and unrelenting…left me with a lot of baggage, while they went on with their lives and became successful. I had low self esteem issues that hindered my career to be a cartoonist. I have NO sympathy for bullies that get shot.

    • sean

      ya the gov, and teachers have taken parenting rights away from the parents. I would be very surprised if the shooter was not on some kind of psychiatric drug.

      • DavidM

        Revenge shooting at its finest. Do not ever think you can bully someone and think you can get away with it. The bullies are now victims. Awwww no heart cry for them.

      • Ishmot2

        I was taught when bullied to just fight back in a fair fight, kick their a$$ and gain some respect!

      • chuck

        I almost agree with youl. But the problem is that my generation 1948-1960 were so covinced that our parent and teachers had it wrong, that we changed the way schools were run. Parents now make excuse for bad actions, grades or anything that their kids do. We were raised to think and not to puke back the correct answers to a state of federal standards test. And last but not least, when you screwed up some kind of punishment was going ot happens and if your parents found out you caught double the punishment in school. As far a moives or game leading to this. My daughter favorite movies when she was youn was the conan series. She is one of the most gentle and loving creatures on this earth. In the words of Clinton, iIT IS THE PARENTS dumbiie….that is the big difference in what is going on. I was trained as a teacher and ended up in the army instead. I am still certifited to teach, but there is no way in hell I would od that today. Not because of the kids, but because of the parents

      • Totally Confused

        Did you just quote a “Clinton”…..

        All validity lost….clean that dress….come on now…I mean really…of all to quote?

      • marty

        The school system is designed for girls to succeed and for thr boys to be feminized. We have a school system that the democrats have created and the republicans do not know what to do, since they are outnumbered 10 to 1. It’s up tp the voters to reject political correctness and change the system. Otherwise, go private or christian schools.

    • Eric Gunther Oberhauser

      Very good thinking.

      • End the Dept of Education

        Justified shoot in my book, every action has a reaction. At least the cops didn’t sit this one out “’til the site was secure and everybody was dead” viz Columbine.

        And why do we pay the educracy 50 cents on every dollar? Get rid of the Dept of Education.

      • Dave W

        At least the cops didn’t wait until “the site was secure and everyone was dead.” lol…love it…..so true. Is like that family in Mass where, as the cops sat outside for a half hour, two men tied a woman and her teen and pre-teen daughters to their beds, poured gasoline on them, and burned them all alive.

  • Patriot1776

    This is what happens when a person gets bullied and teased so much. Bullys push their victims to using deadly violence. Its no different in workplaces. But older people have learned to shut their mouths because people resort to using guns now to settle differences.

    Never bully nice people. Even they have a breaking point.

    • Dennis Johnson

      Your statement says it all. It’s always someone else’s fault when some CRIMINAL commits a criminal act. Individual responsibility is for someone else I guess. Hope this kid gets the chair / needle or whatever if they allow it.

    • Barbara

      Don’t buy into this bullying stuff! It is just another useless “anti-program” to take the place of math, science, English, history, geography that are not being taught in our schools. How else can we train them up to be “occupiers?”

    • Bikertrash

      Sadly, maybe a lesson to the bullies of the world.

      • Pk

        Bullying is encouraged by schools? You’re nuts.

      • Sam

        It won’t.

        As a former and current victim (even as an adult I get it), no one does jack.

        Bullying is encouraged by the schools. Bullies make good football players and trash taking a government paycheck. Yup, society needs more bullies!

        Better make sure, though, that there are more bullies than those bullied.

        Bullied people DO fight back. Sometimes in the most spectacular ways.

    • Daisy

      I’m not condoning bullying, however, sometimes kids will bully kids who are threatening to their own safety and well being.

      When adults are not in charge (see: Lazy Parents/Teachers) kids will take matters into their own hands in an attempt to further marginalize dangerous kids in their midst. The murderer (who, btw, is a bully supreme) did not become this disturbed over-night. Lots of signals ignored and perhaps even applauded for the sake of ‘diversity’.

      Again, not condoning – just offering a plausible explanation.

      • Brad Brad Brad

        Daisy, your “plausible explanation”is the most idiotic thing I have ever read.

      • Locke

        It’s not plausable at all.

        Bullies go after the weaker, quiet kids because they know they won’t fight back – they are psychopaths.
        Bullies are cowards and are the dangerous ones, not knights in shining armor.

    • marty

      This is not a bullying problem, it is a character problem. The school system knows very little about building character. They are good at cramming environmental rules down their throats, but character….too religous for the brilliant secular minds at the headquarters. bullying is the new anti male craze the school system has wrapped their arms around. bullying, we have no proof at all that this was the case, has been arounf forever. No worse now than before. but the left needs someone to blame besides the gun. new policies must be enacted. A new, new anti bullying position must be budgeted. A new safe zone must be built. A new asexual boy must be built. And you people send your kids to this zoo?

    • DouginTexas

      I don’t know if the shooter targetted his bullies or not. My question is: Why weren’t the school teachers and authorites aware of the bullying? They are supposed to stop it, not turn their backs or support their favorites.

    • Bullies Deserve It

      Bully’s deserve what they get when thier victims have had enough. The only good bully is a dead bully.

      • Sam

        BRAVO, from a former victim.

    • modd kenwood

      bullying has gone on in school forever…killing someone for doing the bullying is a bit extreme ain’t it?

      • Kaitara

        bullying used to last a few days at best, and then when the teachers paddled them (which is how it was) or dad came to school and beat their butts, it stopped. But you can’t do that any more, so it goes on and on and on and on. It’s relentless, they hound the kid every minute of the day. I don’s care who you are, you can only take so much. It’s like being restrained on a bed face up, and ever 20 seconds a large drop of water hits you in the middle of the forehead, sooner or later you will go mad. Even ADULTS who are bullied at work go off, ask postal employees… Some kids/adults can take it for weeks, months, years or decades, but in the end they will go off, maybe not kill someone, but lash out and beat someone, or hurt or kill themselves. This has to stop. You might be having fun as the bully but you sure wouldn’t have fun as the one being bullied, or the one being shot by the one being bullied.

      • littleleers

        My best friend was bullied a lot. She did not go out and get a gun. Usually, someone who bullies or is a bully has little support at home.

        Having a supportive, non-dysfunctional family helps get kids through those difficult years.

      • J. Mayer

        Does that make it ok??? Some people don’t have the limits that others do. Kids today have SO much more pressure than we did in my day. And honestly, its going to happen more and more until bullying is taken seriously by the staffers at public schools. Unfortunately being a teacher has become a babysitting job, but if they don’t want to do it, don’t bother making it your career.

        Modd – btw, bullying in ANY form is inexcusable. No matter who you are, you will have a breaking point and lash out in some form. Not everyone will be deadly, but there will be violence involved.

      • L. S. Stewart

        This is true but back in the day, we would wait for the bully after school and give him a “blanket party” (throw a blanket or coat over his head and beat the snot out of him. Today that is SOOOO wrong and kids are threatened with suspension or expulsion if they respond with any violence toward the bullies. I think the logic here is if I’m going to be in deep kimchee, I might as well kill them.

      • Jake

        Extreme bullying kills innocence and destroys lives.

      • Scott Twist

        My stepson was given a cuncussion by a shool bully. The zero tolerance to bullying being pushed by the schools these days makes fighting back just as much of an offense as the original bullying. I am truly sorry for the families involved in this, but it was 100% preventable. Had the kid not have had access to a weapon, he probably would have just ran them over when he learned to drive. A murderer is a murderer, no matter what tool they choose to implement.

      • Totally Confused

        There are so many comments relating to gun control and such it’s funny in a sad way. Those that say it’s the gun’s fault…tell me it;s the cars fault when a drunk driver kills…then you would proclaim CAR CONTROL.

        This is someone that was picked on…and made a decision. They could have used a knife just as easy and had the same result unfortunately. It has nothing to do with such…it’s about mentality, social impact…and the ability to make a decision. It is obvious that this child had no background in decision making from the parent(s)….and this was the only “rational thought” in that head. How sad. Take that kid fishing….get him outdoors….I bet he would excel in something and these little freaks that picked on him would mean nothing to him. Some parents let these kids just go on their own….what do they expect if they don’t inspect?

      • Totally Confused

        What an idiotic comment…that bullying has been going on forever..etc…

        Have meds been going on forever at the level they are prescribed?
        Has the parental unit ever been so messed up that these kids have nobody?
        Was music always this “in yo face violent”?

        Did you have this much pressure as a teen in school, relating to social media, the Hollywood TMZ updates…etc….you are a fool.

        A kid bullied back then in this environment…would have done the same. It’s sooo not right…but it’s our world. Let me ask you this…did you think someone 70 would have to work until 99 in the US back then? Time change…so should your dumb frame of mind.

      • Larry Pierson

        Bullying has gotten worse within the last generation or so. As fewer parents teach their children Jude-Christian ethics the bullies are less inhibited and restrained.

      • Bullied Badly as youth

        The only reason I never got pushed to this point is due to my parents being there for me. The only reason I wasn’t in the news 20 years ago was I was able to work it out with my family, I could get the guns back then.

      • Sam

        Not really.

        When faculty is unresponsive, or punishes the person being bullied, then yes, I’d say that deadly force is the last option.

        What else is one supposed to do, “suck it up?” The administration should be prosecuted, not the boy who did the shooting. The administration is as guilty as pushing that boy over as the bullies were.

      • Tom

        Yes bullying has gone on forever in school BUT the problem is Parents don’t discipline there kids, there is so much violence on TV and video games so these kids learn how to solve there problems with violence. I am not saying the bully deserved this but schools REALLY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION BETTER! and not sweep things under the carpet, I have kids in school and I do see bullies getting away with stuff all the time

      • magicsquare

        Not really. Bullies destroy lives. They’re sociopaths and the future would be better off if they were euthanized the moment it became clear that they were antisocial little monsters.

      • Climp Jones

        obviously not

      • Nik Boldrini

        Bullying is a a bit extreme! Forever is a lame excuse.

    • Ralph wilson

      I, agree with you.

    • Glen

      Yep. Get pushed too far and receive no help from the indifferent powers that be, and thats what happens. I’ll bet the group that got shot were a bunch of assholes.

      I’s sure the school’s corrective action for this will be to rapidly identify and sanction bullied kids instead of actually protecting them.

      • Kaitara

        @ Daisy If you raised your child NOT to be an a$$hole, you would never hear that comment.

      • Fred Zarguna

        @Rob WOW. An actual voice of sanity on this insane thread. Please make sure no one can backtrack to your real name, because some of the idiots on this thread will be trying to hunt you down for pointing out that bullying is not a capital crime.

      • Scott Twist

        Well said. Its sad but also probably true.

      • Jake

        Great post. It is time that teachers who allow students to get bullied day in and day out were charged, and that the law was changed so victims can sue their tormentors, at any time in their lives.

        The people these bullying victims single out when they can’t take the torment anymore are not innocent victims. They get what is coming to them. To compare them to women who are raped is the height of absurdity.

      • Linda

        If kids today had stable, secure homes with loving parents, then they would be able to handle being bullied. I was bullied in high school, and I never even considered taking a gun to school and killing people. Kids today can’t handle any situation that is hard. And the media has taught them that using the excuse of being bullied makes you a victim instead of your victims. You can’t go out and murder everyone who hurts your feelings. Geesh!

      • Rob

        lol, classic blame the victim. “it was her fault she got raped, she was asking for it.” “it was their fault some kid shot them.”

      • Daisy

        I hope you never have to read that your murdered child was an #@%&ole. Your moral compass is dyslexic.

    • Merritt J swift

      I was never violent but the last eight years where Hell on Earth in school.Make no excuses for evil.If anyone would have gone psycho it would have been me.He made a choice and he should be executed .A wanna be bully got bullied that’s all.How many times does an actual perpetrator become the actual target of the reprisal?,almost never.Your heart means well.The schools don’t want to know what the horrible school peer to peer dynamics are,I tried to tell them ages ago but they can do no wrong and forgive themselves.

      • EveryoneNeedsCompassion

        I’m sorry to hear you were treated horribly, but I’m so glad you survived. Even after all the distance and time, it still is haunting, a bit, isn’t it? Glad you made it through, though. Sometimes these little callouses on our hearts do make us tougher so we can stand the intense heat of the adult years, and to do the right thing, despite what others, even close family members say. Blessings to you.

    • karo

      I agree, when will kids learn not to bully. I hope it was not innocent people who were shot. Not that you want the bullies shot, but when will people learn to just keep their darn mouth shut???? the bullies should be held accountalbe as well.

    • stinkin

      I liked it better when fist fights settled acrimony. A bloody nose or a loose tooth was the maximum damage allowed. This is more than a angry kid. This is a nut.

  • B

    Huh? What is “Baskin & Phelps”? Do any of you people know how to do basic news writing?

    • Tom

      It sounds like a sleazy ice cream joint.

      • Fred Zarguna

        They make ice cream that self-destructs in 5 seconds.

      • Marina

        Love it haha sorry :(

  • David

    I’d love to see someone try that in my high school, especially in October or November. They’d be extremely out-gunned.

  • Unoga

    this boy was deeply troubled and SOMEBODY knew it yet did nothing to help him. This sort of thing happens again and again across this country. It’s like tenn suicides: SOMEBODY knows there is a problen, yet does nothing.

    • Tim

      Apparently, anyone that disagrees with Fred is “mentally ill”.

    • magicsquare

      The problem is that in the US, the education system values the ability of the strong to humiliate the weak far more than the mental health and well being of kids who don’t fit in, especially in flyover country. The south and the rust belt is basically one big reenactment of Lord of the Flies with all of the kid roles being played by John Wayne except for piggy, who is played by anyone who doesn’t think that Jesus was a big fan of beating kids with belts and shooting women who have had abortions.

      • robynn

        the real problem. Is our government has been aloud to take Jesus out of our public schools. the bible say spair the rod, spoil the child…..its so easy for children to say…my parents abuse me, when their simply. Being disciplined…. if we could as parents beat our,kids,asses maybe these things wouldn’t be happening about schools.

      • Carl

        Darwin teaches us it is survival of the fittest. Killers take out their prey. It’s the rule of the jungle.

      • Fred Zarguna

        The BIG problem is that you’re mentally ill and apparently don’t even realize it.

        Bigotry much?

  • kjatexas

    What did the school do to stop the bullying of this kid? If its like most schools, they did nothing. That is a sure fire recipe for the kind of violence that erupted at this school.

    • justsmart

      To go a step further the parents of the bully’s should be held responsible as well as the School.

      • cleanfun

        It didn’t happen on the parent’s shift. It happened while the school had him, because of the environment the school allowed, and obvious issues the school didn’t address with the bullies. The school has your child most of their waking hours, but when something goes terribly wrong because of their neglect, all the sudden the parents are blamed.

        If the parents did something wrong, it was that they didn’t listen to that boy when he begged them to not send him to school.

      • Smart Target

        I’d agree. Do the families of the bullies mob and gangstalk in the community? Are they members of secret societies?

        Questions should be asked of them. How much targeting is going on in the community to “keep it safe?”

        Is the rest of the shooters family also being targeted, as in Targeted Individuals? Probably…

      • Jake

        Of course people kill themselves because of bullying. And those that don’t turn the violence inwards turn it outwards. I’m not sure which I admire more – those who won’t do violence to others, or those who take out those sadists who tortured and tormented them.

        And what is sicker than a hateful, twisted, Conservative?

      • sha sene

        the gay mafia’s bullying campaign blames children on the suicides of others, even though no one kills themselves from being bullyied
        Suicides happen because of serious underlying mental disorders, not being called names
        Now the liberals are attempting to blame the victims for this shooting

        Liberals are sick

    • Macfad

      Oh, so it’s the SCHOOL’S fault? BS! Bullying has been going on for thousands of years and idiots didnt resort to killing others. It’s the emasculation of society that is the fault. Kids need to “man up” and learn how to handle it instead of whining and crying and then shooting people!

      • EveryoneNeedsCompassion

        My brother told my mom that he was getting bullied and physically knocked around (he likely said, “Some guys are giving me a hard time at school” since “bully” wasn’t the really the term in vogue at the time). Mom told him he’d had to show them some spine and knock them right back. They did, and that was that. I think the quicker a bullied kid responds with a sharp retort or smack, the better, even if the school gives the kids and the parents grief over it. At least, then, the adults are in the know and talking about it. I got flack in elementary school and I would take it for a while, then I’d turn around and make them stop, with a punch. Now, I know girls aren’t supposed to do it, but it ended, even if we did end up in the principal’s office. I never said two words in the principal’s office, just stared at the boy that started it, and the boy was always falling over himself to make excuses, trying to dig out of the hole. I didn’t mind getting in trouble to stick up for myself. Sometimes, you have to go to the mattresses. When I was older, about junior high, I learned that girls were psychologically mean, and so I stayed away from the mean girls and kept to myself. I didn’t date because I knew what boys said about girls, what they said about my sister was enough proof that dating wasn’t for me until I was older. And I kept to myself and just read, or wrote stories or poetry, and didn’t hide in the library, just sat wherever I pleased, and because I didn’t send out any “frightened mouse” or “victim” cues, the kids left me alone. It was a little lonely, but at least no one said anything to my face.

      • Bullies Deserve It

        The shooter DID handle it. He could not physically defeat the bullies, so he picked up a equalizer and took care of business. The only good bully is a dead bully. If the shooter only shot those who bullied him, then I find no fault with his actions. Bully at your own risk you little thugs, and you too can reap the results.

      • Elmer

        Looks to me like he did handle it.

      • some dudester

        right on. The shooter was a coward that deserves to be hung.

  • phuc it

    its bush’s faulot

  • Senseless Huh

    We are shocked by this senseless tragedy. Something like this can’t happen without someone saying “senseless tragedy.”

    It wasn’t senseless. This kid was obviously out for revenge or retribution. I’m not saying what he did was right or justified, I’m just saying it’s far from senseless.

    The thing to remember here is that EVERYONE has a breaking point. Treat people with kindness, compassion etc. and this wouldn’t be a problem. But we as a society are always trying to one-up each other, trying to find self-worth and value from belittling others…and it’s all fun and games until those people reach that breaking point and go head hunting because they don’t care anymore.

    • sha sene


      People who commit murder because they are lacking in the mental department to begin with,

      No one kills themselves or others because of mere bullying
      Only a retard would blame children for the violence of the mentally disturbed

      • Dave W

        We’re, not We’er, and Peers, not Piers……just beating you to it, you twit

      • Dave W

        “no one kills themselves because of mere bullying” Are you FU—ING serious? We’er talking about teenagers here. All emotion. All very sensitive to what their piers think of them. An emotionally vulnerable time for many of them. The only “retard” on this post is you.

      • Jake

        I’m betting you were a bully. Too bad the kid you tormented didn’t get his hands on a gun.

      • Bob

        Ever hear the words “Crime of Passion”? As in, when someone is so overcome with emotion, they kill? There’s a reason we don’t just have “Murder” as a charge. There are different kinds of murder charges because, unlike you, the courts understand that people do, indeed, kill for any number of reasons.

        If you keep poking a lion in the eye, and the lion rips your arm off, if isn’t really the lion’s fault. There are consequences.

      • Facts

        Wrong. People can – and DO – kill because of bullying. We allow them to be bullied incessantly and to the absolute mental/psycological breaking point, but forbid any backlash…what do we expect will happen?

        DUUUUUH, folks…this is not rocket science!

      • Daisy

        “People who commit murder because they are lacking in the mental department to begin with, …”

        Not to mention the moral department.

  • JoeKlip

    It used to be when a kid got bullied, his father or uncle would seek out the thugs and gave them a good whipping. The bullying just stopped after that. The lesson is there are consequence if you do bad things. Now, that is considered to be child abuse. Kids today are learning there are no consequences for your actions. The kid acted out because he has absolutely no recourse. If he hit back at the thugs, he get expelled. This world is upside down.

    • BrunoS

      You are right. In my day you got bullied you snapped and popped the A–hole in the nose… you didn’t in trouble for it because the school knew you were being bullied and the A–hole deserved it… fast forward to now…

      You get bullied you can a) say something to the teachers who will ignore you, or b) do something and get in trouble while the bully gets off scotfree…. eventually when those are the only two choices available the bullied kid is going to pick option c) waste the A–holes and be done with it.

      Truth be told, there are a lot of people responsible when this happens. At the very least it appears the shooter was being selective so at least no one truly innocent was targeted.

      • Scott Twist

        Look up how many kids take option D, suicide. My family recently met the father and mother of a bullied child that did just that. The kid was an avid hunter and could have easily snuck a gun to school but instead turned it on himself.

    • Macfad

      So prison is a better alternative than being expelled? More evidence that those who resort to killing others as a course of action are mentally disturbed.

      • Bill

        No Kidding!! Your a real rocket scientist… There is a reason these kids are an outcast..Picking on them is real smart based on their known personalities. Great rational thinking with your insight..

    • robynn

      Your absolutely correct…. from 6th grade to 10th grade I was bullied daily…..the school helping me take care of the problem, what a joke……it took my dad to confront the bully, and threatening them to get them to stop…..my parents did everything from talking to the school to the kids parents…..and nothing worked. I hated school, and ended up quoting cause I missed so much due to being made fun of everyday…..now days parents aren’t aloud to meet with the other child’s parents, you have to rely on the school talking to the other party’s…..

  • Here's Johnny

    No excuse to Kill

    Let the law deal with him as harshly as he did to those in the cafeteria

    • Jake

      I think he had a pretty good excuse. The people who should be charged are the adults who did nothing to stop the bullying he was subjected to.

      • DavidM

        Jake you are 100% correct!

  • Dave W

    I never could understand why kids would pick on other kids. Growing up, of course, I saw it all the time. Many times I would come to the defense of someone being bullied, but I had the advantage of being a pretty big guy. Some kids were utterly ruthless and preyed on the low self esteem of others. Not saying that was the case here, but, frankly…..if it turns out that these kids DID relentlessly torment the shooter, then they got what was comin’ to them. Extreme response or not, bullying others is, in itself, a sign of sociopathology and ruthlessness.

    • Fred Zarguna

      So, in your mind, bullying is a capital crime.

      No mental problems with you, eh?

      • Dave W

        Actually, yes Fred..extreme mental problems here..Fred Zarguna…..can’t be too many of you can there……see you soon, friend….

      • Fred Zarguna

        @Bullies Deserve to be killed because I’m a moral cretin:

        You can’t can’t image how frightened I am.

      • Bullies Deserve It


        Bully ME and you too can reap the results, you cowardly bullying prick. Bullies DESERVE what they reap from their victims.

  • Mauloa

    Where are we failing our youth? For a teenager to think it’s o.k. to “shoot to kill” anyone he has feelings against is ludicrous. I am 72 years old, and can’t think of ANY person doing such things in my life time until the past 20 years. Beginning with Columbine, those with grudges (whether just or not) think “this is what we do” – bullying is a cause/reason to commit murder. Nonesense, these kids are becoming so “dulled and accepting” of violance because most of our reality shows, gameboy violance and Hollywood over the top visions of violance have created a “reality” that is not real. Facebook, twitter, tweeting, etc. can be wonderful, but the flip side is horrendous. Parents, teachers and anyone working with youth better wake up and start finding out where their kids are, what they are doing, and who they are associating with. We have failed to teach our kids consequences of their actions…. until it is too late. Where does this kid involved in today’s shooting think he was going to end up? He never thought beyond his own agenda.

    • Fred Zarguna

      Your problem understanding this arises from the fact that you grew up in America at a time when most of the people were not literally insane.

  • PDH

    Well, its obvious that the federal gov’t. needs to get involved, revoke the second amendment by executive order and that will make this country so much safer.

    • Chase

      Can’t happen, will not happen, w/o amending the Constitution (Thank God). If Obama &Co. try to do that, all Hell will break loose in USA. You will see a revolution like you can’t imagine

    • Macfad

      $100 says the kid didn’t come by the gun legally….so in that case, all the laws in the world wouldn’t have prevented this. How many times does it have to be said, MURDER is already against the law. Laws are only for the LAW ABIDING public. Murders DO NOT OBEY your laws!

      • Fred Zarguna

        Careful: If you’re mistaken you’ll owe $100 to everyone on the Internet. Ouch.

        I’m not aware of any state where a person under 18 can own a handgun, or use one without adult supervision.

        Anyway, what difference does it make? The gun didn’t commit a crime whether is was obtained legally or not.

    • Tim

      And next, the first amendment. And how about elections, liberals don’t like them either. Why not children all together, just outlaw them. They just cause global warming after all.

      PDH you are what is wrong with the world!

      • T. Paine

        Try attuning yourself to irony

  • David

    I was bullied from 1st grade to 11th grade because I was Gay. I shot the windows out of the principal’s office at night. I recently stopped attending a 12 step program after three years of being bullied because I am Gay.

    • Just Sayin

      I was bullied for being gay, even though I am not gay.

      The worst bullies are the ones who have a pretense of morality.

      I finally realized that gay marriage didn’t harm my marriage, but grown up bullies who beat their wives harm the reputation of heterosexual marriage.

      • Fred Zarguna

        I was bullied for not being gay by h o m o s. I was bullied for being gay by heteros. The truth is that I live with the shame of being asexual. I want “Ay” rights for old maids and aged family members who live together. Otherwise, I will either jump off a bridge or shoot strangers — whichever wins more approval from idiots on the Internet.

        I finally realized that gay people don’t want to be married. They’re just trying to pay the straight people back for bullying them by bullying them with politics. They also don’t want to be scoutmasters. They just want to sue people who won’t let them be scoutmasters.

        I also realized that gay people who beat their … whatever … are going to give gay marriage a bad name. But not until I read your post, which was indispensible.

        [No. Not really.]

    • Macfad

      So it’s ok that you vandalize and destroy other’s property and break the law all because you couldn’t seem to get others to accept you a a sodomizer?

      • Fred Zarguna

        I think he was being facetious.

  • Dave W

    Oh yah, and it’s true….teachers rarely if ever defend the bullied. They turn a blind eye in most cases. They just can’t be bothered. It’s always been that way. Is one of the main reasons I never respected most teachers very much.

    • Macfad

      That’s not their job. Their job is to teach students the curriculum of their particular courses. They are not baby-sitters, they are not arbitration officials, they are not the police, they are not mental counselors, they are teachers. Kids who disrupt the learning environment should be expelled., Period. No exceptions.l

      • Dave W

        Not that simple MacFly…..when you take on the responsibility of being a teacher, a certain amount of counselor comes with the territory. That is unless a teacher is a friggin’ emotion devoid cyborg. Teachers of children need to have compassion for children, or they don’t belong in the classroom, period.

      • Jake

        That is very much their job. They stand in loco parentis and any parent who would let one of their children be continuously bullied and brutalized by their siblings would face a failing to provide necessities charge, or after a suicide, depraved indifference. It is high time teachers were held to the same standard as parents, not excused by clowns like you.

      • EveryoneNeedsCompassion

        Agreed, but I recall one young teacher who invited the taunts in Spanish class. She was emotionally immature, it was clear, even in junior high — one of those teachers who chooses to re-live her youth through her profession. She was horrible. I tried to make friends with the boy, but he was so defensive he thought I was setting him up for a fall or something, very defensive, even with a hello. Years later, a year after high school, I spotted him biking up an insane hill in town — he had bulked up, he was motoring up that hill. Seriously, no person in his or her right mind would cross that dude anymore!

  • B

    Is bullying that much worse these days than when I was in highschool 15 years ago? Or are kids’ skin that much thinner in this “everyone gets a trophy” mindset? I got bullied all the time in highschool and junior high. A lot of kids did. We let it roll off our backs, found something we had fun doing and focused on that. I can’t imagine that bullying so much worse today that kids do this or commit suicide.

    • Barugger

      It is the kids these days but it’s not their fault… parenting has gone out the window much like society has….too much political correctness…too little in the way of “a broken rule a consequence to be paid” …parents have gone soft and try to be their kids best friends rather than being parents…”it takes a village” is way weaker than it takes two strong parents who love their kids enough to teach them right from wrong!

    • EveryoneNeedsCompassion

      I attended a US Army conference over a year ago, and one of the generals speaking on the suicide rate of soldiers mentioned that there was indeed something different about some young people today. He noted that most of the suicides were of those who hadn’t been deployed. He was careful not to disparage the demographic, and it was apparent he was troubled by the stats, but you could tell he was completely at a loss as to why they were, underneath it all, so fragile.

  • Michael B.

    “We all got under the tables, which is what your supposed to do”


    Whomever taught these kids that they should be sitting ducks should be brought up on some criminal negligence charges.

    • Dave W

      I thought the same thing when I read that…..thanks for bringing it up……exactly…..if you hear shots….curl up in the fetal position and hope the perp goes away….

    • Ted H

      Or better than run away from the shooter…if everybody run to the shooter and stomped his/her lights out… option B anyway.

  • The Halfrican

    Gun’s play the same role in a school shooting as a camera does in child pornography. Only lib’s and morons will mention the gun. They will also state that child pornography does not harm children. Schools should have ZERO tolerance for bullying ! In the 1970’s the best part about turning 16 was we could take guns to school and go hunting before and after school. They were in plain sight in the windows of our pick-up trucks, so go ahead all you lib’s and show your stupidity by giving the gun a role in this senseless violence.

    • BDD_1970

      I hear ya, we used to fight each other. Sometimes the bully one sometimes he didn’t, but it was settled. Now we are equal and nobody can win the game, be the honor student, be the prettiest, or be anything but a lemming.

  • andrew

    I blame Bush

    • Just Sayin

      There is no reason to blame Bush.

      He did not create the loose gun laws. The NRA wrote them.

      He did not start the violent wars. Contractors came up with it.

      He did not create a culture of bullying comments. The Architect did.

      Bush is innocent.

      • Fred Zarguna

        You left out your last name, which is clearly “Nonsense.”

        So, Just Nayin Nonense. James Madison wrote the Second Amendment at the behest of the NRA? Interesting, because Thomas Jefferson’s version was even more “right-wing:” “No Free Man shall ever be debarred the use of Arms.” He was NRA, too, I guess.

        So many slaves.

        So little time left to educate them.

  • BDD_1970

    We do not prepare our kids with how to deal with being bullied. We coddle them by not using red ink or giving them failing grades. We do not fail them but instead give them high school completion certificates instead of diplomas. We are all responsible for this kind of tragedy because we have let the Fed wussify us and our kids. Enjoy your latte crapachino on your way to the cliffs my fellow lemmings.

  • Tim

    “We are shocked by this senseless tragedy,” his family said in a statement. “Danny was a bright young boy who had a bright future ahead of him. “

    Well, if he wasn’t just an innocent bystander, “Danny” didn’t possess enough common sense and civility to restrain himself from bullying other kids. When a bully takes it upon himself or herself to threaten and intimidate other students, they have to expect some degree of retaliation. After all, the school faculty and district isn’t going to do anything about it!

    • Fred Zarguna

      Right. So, in your opinion bullying is a capital offense?

      It’s quite incredible that so many people on this thread are actually blaming the victims.

      • Fred Zarguna

        @Tim you have mental problems if you think killing somone over bullying is justified.

      • Tim

        Yeah, it is a capital offense because the victims of bullying oftentimes bear their emotional scars and wounds for an entire lifetime! Apparently, you haven’t a clue as to the personal torment that a bullying victim has to endure, all because school officials do nothing about the problem. Somebody says, “Well, fight back.” Looks to me like this kid fought back. Oh, maybe he should have fought with his fists instead of a gun? When you take the garbage out, do you take it out one little piece at a time? No, you take it all out. Like I said, if “Danny” wasn’t an innocent bystander and was one of the bullies, he pretty much got what was coming to him. It is entirely possible that all parties involved in this tragedy could be wrong. Because the kid who did the killing decided to take up arms against his oppressor, shouldn’t make him the only one who is wrong!!!

      • Fred Zarguna

        @Tim the hallmark of civilization — which is clearly disintegrating — is that we are able to make and understand moral distinctions. Only sav ages believe that all wrong is equally wrong. To say both the bulliers and bullied are at fault is to trivilize a felonious armed assault and murder, as if such a despicable act is morally equivalent to murder.

        No, it isn’t.

        You must have been one of the OJ Jurors, who believed that the mere possibility that a detective peripherally involved in a case might have used the word ni**er at some time during the last ten years — not directly to anyone, and certainly not directed at the accused — was a sufficient justification to allow a murderer to go free.

      • Tim

        What I am saying, Fred, is that it is entirely possible that the shooter and his victims could all be wrong concerning this conflict. It very well may not be an either/or situation. Criminals kill innocent people. They also kill other criminals. When they kill other criminals, both parties are at fault. I might have a mental illness, but I at least possess some ability to logically deduce a situation. Apparently, you don’t!!

  • Boyd

    So the FBI has no clue to motive but some 15 year old kid says, “the gunman was known as an outcast who had apparently been bullied.” and CBS quotes it as important? An outcast? “Aparently” bullied? Can we surmise that CBS sees the need to push its thought crime agenda over reporting? Yes, we can surmise that.

  • debrarae

    Other people were ‘bullied’ outcasts. I don’t see ‘them’ going out and shooting people. My prayers are with the victims and their families.

    • Bullies Deserve It

      My prayers are with the kid who was bullied so harshly and so long he saw only one way out – kill the bullies tormenting him.

      • Jake

        Frank, you sick sadistic, bully justifying a$$.

      • Fred Zarguna

        My prayers are with you, because you’re clearly ill.

  • Luther

    If the shooter said “Mom/Dad/Teacher/counselor/Principal – please help me, I’m gonna snap with all this bullying” what do you think would happen? He’d be labeled an unstable psycho in addition to being bullied. It would not have helped. He may have even tried it. There’s more to this story that will be coming out.

  • Jim

    sadly this is going to bring up the bullying legislation talks again, like that’s going to help. there’s a lot of bullying commentary out there that completely misses a few things. you can educate parents til you’re blue in the face but when your kids are watching bullying on American Idol and shows like that ALL OVER THE PLACE, the parents can’t help. The parents watch our political leaders bully each other, watch a president bully Plumber Joe and participate in hate talk against anyone who thinks differently.

    Point is, bullying will never stop. It’s better to prepare your children. Remember the ol days? Sticks and stones? I was bullied and never felt like I needed to respond in kind.

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