2013 NFL Combine: Browns CEO Joe Banner Transcript
How do you know when the window starts for competing?
“I think it starts, in terms of building it, now. I think it will be obvious to everybody. Hopefully we’re really objective in evaluating our team which is one of the biggest mistakes people make around the league. They think they’re better than they are, so they do something short term. Or they think they’re worse than they are and the window is closing. For me, it will start when we’ve finished what I’m saying to you – knowing you have a really good quarterback and an offensive line and defensive line that can dominate the game. They you start to build up from there. You’re not done. You’re not going to win a championship if that’s all you have. But I don’t think you have a serious chance until you have those things. This is what I think about the game and this will be our philosophy. The game is fundamentally about preventing pressure on your quarterback and getting pressure on the opposing team’s quarterback. If you can do that, you have a chance to win any game against any team. When you can’t do that, you’re at a risk in any game. Because if you can’t protect your quarterback you’re not going to be able to pass and if you can’t pass the ball, you’re not going to win today. And if the other quarterback has a lot of time and he’s able to pass the ball you’re in trouble no matter what else is going on. When we get to the point where we know we have a good quarterback and we can consistently protect him and we consistently pressure the other team’s quarterback, then we’ll be in the mix. When we get to that point we’ll be in every game every single week. Until then, if you have a weak offensive line and you’re playing a team with a great pass rush you’re probably in trouble.”
What are you going to do with Cribbs and Dawson? Will any of your free agents be back?
“We do know, but we won’t say.”
“Because in terms of communicating with them – let’s say we’re trying to sign them and I told you we want to bring them back – that certainly wouldn’t be a very smart thing from a negotiating perspective. If we weren’t, we don’t need to tell the other teams who’s going to be free or not free any earlier than necessary.”
Is that smart from a fan perspective for a guy like Dawson?
“My attitude – and you’ll see this and sometimes it will frustrate people – is all the fans want us to do is win. So when we make decisions we think are ultimately putting us in the best position to win, that’s the best thing for everybody in the end. Whether the fans know the outcome of those two questions today or two weeks from now, I’m not sure there’s something consequential there other than they’d like to know and we understand that. In the end they want us to make the right decisions and win football games.
I could understand Cribbs. What’s the argument against bringing Dawson back?
“I don’t want to go there because I’m not going to answer whether he’s going to be there or not. If I start getting into why he wouldn’t be there, it’s not going to be helpful.”
You could have signed some of the impending free agents in December and saved some money right?
“I’m a believer in your own players you want to keep to try do it early. But I just got here in the middle of the season, who whoever was going to be a free agent, there wasn’t the opportunity. When I say early, I the year before would be my preference.”
Maybe with Dawson it’s more about him wanting to go somewhere else.
“I don’t know if you can say that. There’s a market out there I’m sure he’s familiarizing himself with in terms of how many kickers and what’s the value and how much cap room is out there and what players are getting. I’m sure that would affect his position and our position.”
How much cap space do you have?
“There are two cap numbers. I won’t give you the numbers. The one is gross on paper what they are. Those numbers don’t include the rookie pool allocation. They don’t include players you’re going to tender, exclusive right players that aren’t under contract. The actual number of cap room vs. what you see for any team is dramatically lower. But we have a lot of cap room. We have the cap room to do what we want, whether it’s to keep our own players or being active in the free agent market.”
What about other teams free agents? How many big name players do you anticipate adding?
“That’s kind of hard to say. We’re still finalizing what we’d like to do, assuming we can actually control that. The fact we have cap room and other teams don’t I think will help us in the market place. Supply vs. the available cap room is on the teams’ side for the moment. That tends to go back and forth. I view this as a good year to be in the free agent market and to be able to get fair market value. Historically, by definition, you generally have to overpay to get free agents especially in the early part of it. I don’t think you’re going to get any bargains, but I think there is a better chance of getting fair market value in free agency. You never know, but I would expect us to be participants in free agency. How big the names are, that will be determined as we see who’s available and who’s interested in us and who we’re interested in.”
How does that 89 percent rule in the new CBA affect things? Do you have to spend so much this year?
“It doesn’t affect us at all. “We’re going to be an active, aggressive team in spending over the years. I say years on purpose. In a given year, depending on where you’re at, you might not be but over the course years we’ll be on the aggressive end of team spending.”
What will you do with No. 6? Up, down, stay?
“Hard to know until after we see what we come out of free agency with and finish drafting. My history has been more trading down than up or staying. I have had some instances where we’ve traded up for a player we thought was really good at a position we thought was difference making. But historically I have either stayed or traded back. Accumulating picks over the course the course of the draft is a good strategy generally.”
How badly would you like to get back in 2nd round? Can you tell if this is a draft where teams want to get back up in the top 10?
“Despite all the coverage that goes on, I don’t think the drafts have been that much different. There are usually some teams that want to move up. It’s never a ton. There’s always a team that has a need that is four or 10 picks back. I can’t remember ever sitting in first round and not getting calls from somebody inquiring about moving up. I assume that will be the same. It’s just too early to know especially with free agency being so close and planning to have some activity in it.”
Thoughts on the Josh Gordon pick?
“It’s to be determined. I think Josh has to keep working hard and improving. I’d be surprised if Josh didn’t say there were things he was doing well and things he could be doing better. A top of the second round pick on a wide receiver you would hope by the second or third year you’d have big, big impact player. I think he still has improvements you could make and there’s hope that he can do that. He’s still got to grow and work hard in order to answer that question.”
Do you have your QB?
“Well, we’ll see. I think Chud told you yesterday they think they can work with Brandon. He obviously has a lot of redeeming qualities. Most of the time, although last year was an aberration, you see big improvement from year 1 to year 2 in players who are going to become good players. He’s in the window where you need to see the kind of development if he’s going to be the long-term answer.”
Sounds like damning with faint praise isn’t it?
“I’m not sure if I’d say damning, but it’s the same with Josh. These are guys who have shown some potential. But if they flattened at the level they are at now or didn’t have the determination to be the best they could be because of work ethic and things like that then they probably won’t be good enough to be on a team that will try to win a championship. On the other hand, they seem to have the ability that if they are willing to make the commitment, take the coaching, be part of kind of the culture that we are going to create in the organization with the team that is going to be a very physical, determined, hard working group then maybe they can be part of the team.”
Does Brandon benefit from the addition of Norv Turner and a different offensive philosophy?
“With Chud’s experience and Norv’s experience with young quarterbacks and the system we will run, the biggest thing for Brandon is going from year 1 to year 2. On almost any position on the team you see that as a crucial time. You see a lot of players that turn out really, really good that struggled in year one. It’s to be determined if he’s one of those or not. You’ve got people who have proven they can work with a young quarterback and develop him combined with the fact he’s going year one from year two.”
Every regime that comes to Cleveland says same thing. Why will yours be different?
“I said from Day One I’m not going to try to win that debate. I understand the skepticism and it’s justified. We’re in a prove-it place. That’s the right place for us to be. I’m just confident that the quality of people that we are bringing in, the track record that they have and I have that we will be successful at this. But I don’t expect anybody to believe that or rely on that until we prove it.”
Every new group that comes in guts the roster to do it their way. Will you need to do that?
“I don’t think we need to gut it. We have the benefit of inheriting two things that will help us a lot. We have a relatively small number of our own players that we could lose. That always gives you a change o move forward instead of retrench. Second of all, we inherited a team that was in very good shape with the cap.”
Have you figured out how you will acquire your QB competition – trade, free agency?
“No we haven’t.”
Is there a chance you would use No. 6 on QB?
“I don’t mean to be stupid with the answer (but) if we thought there was a QB at No. 6 that we thought was going to be a top player we would have to consider that.”
Competitor for McCoy’s position too?
“What we would like to do is create as much possible competition with as high a quality of player as we possibly can.”
Was their an issue with how hard Weeden worked?
“My impression was that he took coaching well. So, I hoping that will be a positive thing.”
Your job is to project players so how do you project Weeden?
“It wouldn’t be productive to be overly specific about that. But I think we’re telling you that we see potential that we’re going to try to work with it and see what it’s going to develop into. Some of that is just going to come from how bad he wants it. So I think we’ll know a lot more than we know now shortly.”
Have you discussed trading for Alex Smith?
“As I’ve said, we’ve discussed every quarterback who’s available in trade or free agency or even those that we think we could maybe make somebody who wasn’t planning on making available in trade. But what the outcome of that discussion is, I’m not going to get into. But we’ve talked about every single possible player at the positions we think we’re focusing on right now.”
Does not having second-round pick hamstring you in terms of trying to make a trade?
“You generally would like to have all your picks, but if Josh Gordon turns out to be a good player, then we’ll have used the pick wisely.”
Are you more reluctant to give up another pick?: “Yes.”
In your opening remarks about Brandon Weeden, it almost kind of sounded like you were leaning toward thinking that maybe he is somebody you guys could move forward with. Is that an accurate perception?
“Well, I think we want to give him the best chance to succeed. We have a huge vested interest in him being successful. We think that we’re bringing in coaches that can maximize that. We think we have some existing benefits. I actually think the most valuable a quarterback can have is an offensive line that’s good. He’s in an unusual position of coming in as a rookie and inheriting a team that has a good offensive line. So we have a huge vested interest. It will accelerate our ability to get to where we want to if he succeeds.”
Is that balanced by the fact that you feel like you need other positions, too, whether it be a rusher off the edge, a cornerback in a year when it’s not supposed to be a strong quarterback class, would some of your assets better be used on other positions?
“The biggest mistake we could make is to force something because we need it. So we can’t do that, which doesn’t mean that need doesn’t matter. We’re not one of these guys that says, ‘Oh, you just pick the best athlete all the time.’ But you don’t bypass a guy that’s a really good player to fill a need. That said, you have to make sure whether it’s what we have or we have to get that you have a really, really strong player at that particular position. But if we picked a quarterback just ‘cause we’re worried we’re not good enough there just to pick somebody who we’re not even that sure about, that would be a bad mistake.”
How do you assess your offensive line and pass rush?
“I think our offensive line is good and it could get better. I think as we switch to the 3-4 and as I said before even if we stayed in the 4-3, the defensive front [seven] needs some additions to be able to compete with the best in the league.”
What does it mean to you to acquire players who want to be part of the organization?
“You’re asking a right question. We won’t know that for a few weeks. But we think that Jimmy coming in as the owner is a tone changer. We think around the league the hiring of Chuds and the quality of the staff is perceived both in terms of its quality and the message it sends about what we’re committed to, the investments we’re willing to make to win. Aside from Chuds, both Norv [Turner] and Ray [Horton] have reputations from players, talking to players, as people you really want to play for that they like playing for, that they have a lot of respect, that they think will be successful. I think the division we’re in is one that players that are driven that are kind of driven by being competitive would be excited to be in. So I think we have a good story to tell. But it’s a better story, despite perception most players want to play where they believe they can win. So once we’ve actually proven the questions you’re asking that we’re going to be different than the previous regimes and we’re going to win here, it will get easier. But I still think we’ll still be successful in recruiting the primary guys we’ll be looking for.”
Going back to you saying we still need players on the defensive front to compete with the best in the league, do you mean the front seven or the defensive line?
When you talk about perception around the league, there’s also perception that Michael Lombardi, vice president of player personnel, is a TV guy who hasn’t worked in the league for five years and that your expertise in Philadelphia was business and contracts. Could you address that in terms of bringing in players?
“I think the people around the country and around the league that know don’t share those perceptions. So I think people in the league know that I was intimately involved in the small group of people who made the football decisions in Philadelphia that led to a lot of success. I think the people that know Mike Lombardi as it relates to his player evaluation ability would feel like it’s a good combination, that we can build a successful organization. I don’t think some free agents or the agents of the free agents are going to be telling them [anything] other than they expect Cleveland to turn around and be successful.”
What about the process of hiring Lombardi? There were reports about him for months from pretty credible people that were denied, talked around. Then all of the sudden he was magically hired.
“I don’t think they were ever denied. When I was asked, I always said I wasn’t going to get into the specifics of it. So I never acknowledged or denied. My facetiousis a broken clock is right twice a day. So there’s a lot of stories about which there’s a lot of speculation. Occasionally the speculation comes true. It doesn’t mean that it was fact before it became fact. Mike was always a consideration in my mind. He was one of the people I intended to talk to and interview. I knew him well. I had positive experiences with him. But until the end, he was not the guy.”
How many guys did you interview for the personnel chief position?
“I’ve told people three to five and I haven’t gotten any more specific than that.”
Fans didn’t want Lombardi. Does that concern you at all?
“As I said, I think what people ultimately want is for the team to be successful and to win games. I’d be concerned if people thought we were dishonest. I don’t think you’ll ever experience that with me. I don’t think you’ll every experience that with Jimmy. I don’t think you’ll see that in Chuds. I don’t think you’ll see that in this administration. We haven’t done that. We won’t do that. I think in the end they want us to be right even when we do something they didn’t believe in because they ultimately want to be able to watch the team on Sundays and feel good and be excited and be proud of it.”
What is your philosophy on listening to trade offers for any of your players
“I mean I’m not going to say the cliché-ish, ‘We’d always listen and we will make inquiries and stuff like that.’ I would not expect at this point and time that we’re going to be receptive to trading our players. We’re looking to build on the players we have and take this thing to a higher level over some period of time.”
Do you have any immediate plans to cut any more players?
“My answer is because you said ‘could I see’ is no, but at the same time, if something comes up in two months and we do that, I don’t want somebody to feel like we were misleading or lying. I don’t expect that to happen, but you never know what call you’re going to get or who you could pick up as a free agent that you didn’t think would be available or you thought was going to be too expensive to get and then you go make a move. It’s not because I’m not being forthcoming with you, it’s just circumstances could change. But my expectation is that that won’t happen. My best guess is that won’t happen.”
Are you shopping anyone on the trade market?
“No, we’re not shopping anyone.”
What about the effect of contract deadlines/bonus/cuts like Frostee Rucker on the decision to cut players?
“We didn’t intend to keep him on the team but the specific timing of it related to not any money that was due but some money that was guaranteed. There are players with roster bonuses and money that could become guaranteed but as I say, since we’re not anticipating any additional moves of players, they won’t drive any decisions.”
Will you use the franchise tag?
The defense, which had the most sacks in last five years, why change defense?
“I think we felt like the defense wasn’t good enough to be very direct about it. If you went into some of the more sophisticated breakdowns of the defense this year, and by that I mean some of these systems that take out certain plays and that truly measure your success at crucial times in crucial situations, and so on and so forth, we were ranked 20 or lower in most of those categories. So, I think that, combined with the belief that we wanted to have a more aggressive, attacking defense, because we want to bring in more aggressive-minded players, we want to be risk-takers, we want to be attacking, we want the other team to be on the defensive. It doesn’t mean it was wrong, but that wasn’t the scheme we were running, so this felt like it fit more the type of players we want to bring in and the mindset we want to create. The way we want our opponents to perceive us. We want them to be worried about where we’re kind of coming from and what’s going to happen, what are we going to do next.”
But you didn’t have Gocong or Taylor most or all of the year?
“The reality is, the team overall was pretty healthy last year compared to most of the teams around the league. We did pretty well last year. That doesn’t mean we didn’t miss any players because everybody does, but if you broke down our health situation, and I’m going teamwide when I say this, I would hope we could come out as healthy next year as we did this year.”
Risk-taking defense, your philosophy before Chud and Ray were hired?
“It was the philosophy that contributed to us wanting to hire them. As I say, it may be right or it may be wrong, but everything we will do will come out of a philosophy from a plan. There will be no whims, there will be no flying by the seat of our pants. So the idea of having a team that’s aggressive, the players we bring in will be aggressive attacking competitive, mad as hell when we lose type of people. We’re going to have an offensive and coordinator who are going to call a game with that kind of aggressiveness that we want our opponents to be on the defensive. We never want to be on the defensive. They’re willing to take chances, which will occasionally blow up in our faces, but overall we think over time will prove to be successful. That will be true by the way on the player personnel front as well as the coaching front. That will be the mentality of the of the organization. So we’re hiring people that will fit that culture, whether they be players, marketing people or coaches.”
So the idea of the scheme was there before hiring Chud?
“I’m not sure that’s true, because when I was in Philly, we had Jim Johnson who ran a very aggressive 4-3, so I don’t think you can’t run this out of a 4-3. I’ll tell you what made a difference. We went in pretty neutral, probably a very small bias into the coaching search but pretty neutral, but every offensive coach we interviewed, we asked them what they did and what coaches give them the biggest problems and every single offensive coach we interviewed said this kind of 3-4, 4-3, defense was the one that was the hardest thing for them to play against. As we went through that process, it probably increased our bias a little bit towards thinking that somebody running that was probably on the right track.”
Did any game or two solidify your thoughts on changing the defense?
“I’m not sure it was any particular game. It was just a general observation that if we wanted to be this kind of aggressive team, that we didn’t really have kind of the right mindset, culture through the whole organization with the type of player, the way we were utilizing the players. Don’t get me wrong. There are plenty of teams using that that win. It isn’t by definition wrong. It’s just not what we decided we wanted to be.”
Brandon Weeden is turning 30 in October, do you want to invest efforts into?
“Yeah, if he can do the job. Would it be better if was 24? Of course. But there’s no reason to think he can’t play five or six more years and if he can play well for us for five or six years, that would be great.”
Is the read-option a fad?
“I don’t think it’s a fad, but I think for some times it will be right and for some teams it will be wrong. You better make sure you know how to stop it on defense. I think there will be enough teams using it or at least integrating it into what they do that you better have coaches that are progressive enough to see where the game is going as opposed to where it’s been and start to prepare themselves to be able to deal with that. I think our particular situations, obviously Chud did in Carolina with Cam so he’s well-equipped to it if he decides that’s the best utilization of the personnel. But I don’t think it’s one of those things if you don’t use you’re behind the times, or if you do use you’re catching on with a fad. It depends on your situation, your personnel.”
Why is Lombardi not here?
“Here in the room or accessible?
“Would that be fun? Video it?”
“I think he’s focused on the meetings we’re having with ourselves and the combine, and I think that’s the best utilization of his time right now.”
Is he going to be accessible?
“He will be accessible as we would plan on making the personnel position accessible. So as we get into free agency, the draft and things like that and there are things that would be his area of expertise, he’ll be available.”
So it’s not just you speaking for the team then?
“No. no. he will speak.”
In free agency, will you get a few guys or spend on a big name?
“I’ve done both. I don’t have a rule. I think you need a certain number of impact, difference-making players at key positions to be a really good football team. Sometimes you get those through free agency, preferably you’re drafting them and developing them. But I’ve also picked up a lot of less expensive players that have turned out to really contribute. So we’d be open to either.”
Do guys with attitude (referring to Mike Wallace) scare you?
“I’m not going to get into obviously a particular player, I’ll get fined and I don’t want to do that right now. Here’s the difference for me. Somebody that’s a little bit flamboyant but is a really hard worker and really badly wants to be the best he can be and really wants to play on a winning team doesn’t scare me. Players that have off-the-field problems or aren’t driven to be great we will stay away from. So it’s more of an attitudinal thing, but we will have a culture, the team will be filled with high-character, really hard-working people.”
Have you already identified the positions that are best filled through draft vs. free agency?
“We’ve made the assessment in terms of what positions through our scouts we think are most deep in the draft, which means people like Mike and myself and Chuds and the position coaches are still catching up on that stuff. But we at least have what the scouts think. It’s a little more driven by where we think there are impact free agents, whether they be highly visible or less visible players, that could fill spots successfully, that will still be holding those spots 2 or 3 years down the road. That’ll be the focus. So if we can get some of those in free agency, then it’s more likely it affects who we draft than the other way around.”
What about Jarvis Jones and medical questions that surround him? How much impact does that have on evaluation/risk?
“Not commenting on any particular player, but we will put a lot of weight in the recommendations from our medical staff on any player, whether it’s a particular serious injury or whether it’s just a history of a lot of small injuries. You want to try to get as many players as you can that you can be optimistic are going to be healthy and there every week. Our draft meetings will include our medical staff and they’ll weigh in and give us their evaluation of every player we’re considering, and that will matter. We will, and I don’t know how many teams do this, but we will put a grade for durability on every player in free agency and the draft, and that will be a factor in what we do.”
With no 2nd round pick and the quarterback class evaluation would you just go up and take him at No. 6?
“It’s just going to depend on the evaluations. It’s too early, we really haven’t studied. You do a superficial but that’s often misleading. We’re not at the point. But it’s not the focus of our thinking, I think is kind of a way to be helpful without getting too specific. But at the same time I don’t think – and you’ve seen my history — you can’t have too many good quarterbacks. They’re valuable assets. In Philadelphia we were very successful in if we had more than one getting great value for the more than one.”
San Francisco thinks they have too many?
“They have an asset. Wouldn’t you like to be the 49ers and feel like you have a quarterback you can trade and get more value to make your team even better? That would be a great place to be. So we’ll always be interested in anybody who we think is or has the potential to be a really good quarterback. At the same time, we’re not going to force it while we have other things that are important to make sure we fill in at the same time.”
Are you far along in quarterback evaluations? If the worst case, do you feel comfortable with what you have?
“I think we’ll feel comfortable when we’re able to sit here and tell you we have a starter that we’re sure is a guy that can lead us to a championship. Whereas we’re hopeful and we’re going to give Brandon his best chance to succeed, I don’t think any of us say we know that yet. So until we can sit here and say that, I think we’re going to be working that position.”
“A player like Joe Haden, has talent but got in trouble last year. Where are you on importance of character and do you need to talk to him?
“Again, avoiding a particular name, a player that is not going to get in off-field trouble and that comes to work on time every day, works really hard, is determined to be the best he can be will generically and generally be able to fit into the team we’re going to have and the culture we’re going to have. The player that isn’t working his hardest or we’re worried about what’s going to happen when he’s not at the office – we could make a mistake and not know everything – but we will not intentionally be putting on this team.”
“Last year, Colt was the guy and the talk was similar. Is this Weeden talk all a smokescreen?
“I’ll speak for myself, OK. I will not lie to anybody here. I will not mislead you. I may not answer you, I may be incomplete in my answer. So I’m not telling you we would or wouldn’t pick a quarterback in the first round or the second round, I’m just not doing that. But I’m also kind of I think implying that that’s not what I expect to have happen. So I won’t play that, I just don’t play that game. But I understand what you’re saying about what goes on out there. You may be frustrated sometimes that you wish I would say more, I could be guilty of that. But if I answer a question directly, I’m telling you the truth to the best of my knowledge.”
Is 6 too high to take a guard?
“I mean if you knew he was John Hannah I guess maybe not but it wouldn’t fit. Again I wouldn’t rule anything out but it wouldn’t philosophically fit with how we’re approaching the priorities and how we’re building the team. That doesn’t mean that their isn’t exception or unusual situation or a player that’s so special that you wouldn’t look at.”
Happy w/ 6 draft picks or want more?
“I think you always want to have more picks. And then really good teams, really good teams are hitting on 50 percent of the picks so if you hit on 50 percent of 6 picks versus 50 percent of 10 picks that’s a big difference in building your team. And when I say hitting on I don’t mean like starters or start players but contributors so it could be a nickel corner or third wide receiver, top special teams player but you getting half of the players your picking are contributing to the growth of your team.”
So we’re only going to get 3 good players this year huh?
“I said if we’re really good. If you study the league that’s the reality so I’m a big believer in accumulating picks whether you have 6 or 10. If there’s an opportunity, and I think if you study it history says more often than not trading back in the right situations makes sense but at the same time you don’t want to be passing up good players if they’re there when your pick comes up.”
49ers have 14 – is that a really high number?
“That’s a really high number. That’s what you’d like to get to is be a good team and have 10, 12 picks per year. ”
What does a team like that do with 14 picks?
“I’ll tell you what I bet they’ll do is trade some of them for future picks and they’ll perpetuate it and if they’re smart, which they are, that’s what they’ll do. You really don’t want to take 14 picks. It’s too hard for your coaches to mesh all those players and you run the risk of good players not making the team because you have too many rookies. But probably on paper, and I don’t know this for sure, they have 7 the next year so if they took 3 of them and ended up picking 11 players and now they get 10 for the next year they have a chance to sustain. This is what I’m talking about us trying to get to the point with what we’re doing, this is how you sustain success in the NFL when it’s set up so you shouldn’t be able to sustain success. That’s exactly what you do.”
Do you put a number on amount of players you’re away from being where you want to be?
Can you share that number?
The term impact player – how many do you need to have to get where you want to be?
“I don’t know the answer to that. The flip of it though is to me the more important answer. You have to have 22 players in which none are weak enough to get exploited. The league’s too good, the coaches are too smart. If you find yourself in a position of any of the 22 players where you actually have a weak player you’re in trouble. So to me it’s more important to get to the point where you have 22 starters who are all at least solid starters and then you want to have as many impact players as you can but even if you have a number of impact players but you have some holes, like true holes, exploitable weaknesses you’re in trouble so more importantly to me is we get to the point where we have 22 starters we feel are all solid and then complimenting that.”
How many of those d you have now?
Does that make CB No. 1 need?
“I’m not going to prioritize them but I want to take it back to where I started off the record, so we’re not going rush and make a mistake because we have a need and leave ourselves in a position where we have to solve the same problem twice. We do have an order of what we’d like to solve if the world falls the way we want it to but if it doesn’t we’re not going to force it just so that we’re not going into this season with some glaring hole when its really going to hurt us with where we want to be two, three years from now.”